Infinite Dendrogram

Noch als kleine Ergänzung bzw. kann es wirklich sein dass es noch wichtig wird:
Auf den YT-Channel gab es 7 Kleine Mini-Chibi Episoden welche dien Game-Mechanik näher erklären, natürlich leider nur auf japanisch. Kann aber sein dass dann einige Erklärungen im Anime hinten runter fallen gerade weil man ja viel Stoff adaptieren will. Leute welchen die Anfang von Episode 1 gesehen haben meinten schon mal dass es wirklich gerushed war und die Erklärungen aus den Mini-Episoden scheinbar wirklich wichtig sind.....
Mal sehen wie es wird >_>
Hier der Link zu der Anime-HP mit den verlinkten Mini-Episoden:
http://dendro-anime.jp/movie/?cat=TIPS

Episode 1:

Wie ich befürchtet habe lässt man recht viel Infos über die Welt einfach weg. Zudem hat man Ray überhaupt nicht vorgestellt wie es in der Novel der Fall war. Auch meiner Meinung nach wichtige Hintergründe wie z.b. genauere Infos zur Tasche und Diebstahl hat hat weggelassen und vor allen die Infos zu den anderen Ländern was eigentlich ziemlich wichtig ist....Klar hätte man da einige Laberminuten gehabt aber ich erachte die Informationen als sehr wichtig gerade weil die Komplexität und Aufbau der Welt einen großen Teil des Charmes für mich ausmacht.
Die Tatsache dass sich Ray nicht wundert das Shu ein Kostüm trägt macht übrigens keinen Sinn ^^° In der Novel fragt er nämlich nach und Shi erklärt auch warum er das Kostüm bzw. Kostüme tragen MUSS. Ach ja mal sollte Shu auch nicht unterschätzen es wird schnell deutlich dass hinter ihm mehr steckt ein ein alberner Typ im Bärenkostüm :D
Ich hoffe wirklich dass das Tempo nicht zu schnell wird (und noch mehr Hintergrund über die Welt flöten geht) aber ich schätze mal sie wollten unbedingt Nemesis noch in Folge 1 haben.

Episode 2:

Yay das Hintergrund-Butchering geht weiter! Weder wurde Rays Skill von letzter Woche erklärt noch dazu wurde einfach die komplette Info zu Babi als Succubus und Rooks Job weggelassen >_> Dann das ganze Jobsystem wurde auch nicht komplett erklärt. Aber hey sie haben es geschafft mal den Krieg zu erwähnen aber haben die anderen Länder noch nicht vorgestellt. Durch das ganze Weglassen bekommt man überhaupt kein Gefühl für diese Welt oder für die Charaktere. Was zum Henker sollte der ganze Fanservice bei der Vorstellung von Babi?
Ich frage mich für wen soll der Anime sein? Für Neulinge? Kein eigentlich nicht sein weil sie dafür zu viel weglassen. Sie haben zwar diese Youtube Shorts welche viel zur Welt erklären und eigentlich notwendig sind um überhaupt was von der Welt mitzubekommen aber warum bastelt man diese Sektionen nicht an das Ende der Folge? Westliche Fans bekommen so überhaupt nix mit und wenn das ganze dann hier veröffentlicht wird dann fehlen diese Sektionen auch.
Für LN-Kenner? Am wahrscheinlichsten. Klar freut man sich die Charas mal animiert zu sehen (yay Figgy! und auf Marie, Hugo und Franklin freue ich mich auch schon!) aber bei der Qualität von dem Studio weiß ich nicht ob das so viel Freude aufkommt. Mal schauen ob wir nächste Woche dann den ersten großen Kampf sehen (diese Folge hat man die ja glorreich übersprungen) und wie dieser aussieht.....

Nebenbei hat jemand mal bei animesuki zusammengestellt was an Infos in Folge 2 (auch ein wenig aus Folge 1) ausgelassen worden ist:

• The Orchard is a Newbie Killer, but those monsters aren't native to the region. There was also a swarm of them beneath the ground, which is what kept Shu busy.
• The Shield Skill is called [Counter Absorption] and the Counter Skill is called [Vengeance is Mine], both of which were due to the fact he kept getting hit by things stronger than him that left him in a near-death state, including Liliana.
• He managed to One-Hit Kill the Centipede because [Vengeance is Mine] does damage equal to the total amount of damage he's taken in a day from that enemy and then doubles it while ignoring the defense stat entirely. He returned about 7200 points of Damage to the monster, because even with the Dragonscale potion he took 95 points of damage with each hit (he had only 98 hp as a Level 0) and it factored in the actual damage he would have taken if not for it. However, after its used once the Damage Counter for that enemy is reset.
• During the war, the enemy country paid players 5,000 lir for every NPC killed and 50,000 for every player killed, Naturally, you can imagine that with such a prize the people didn't hesitate to jump on that.
• Only Ranked Players and their Guilds can participate in Wars. The fact that none of the strongest did was what screwed Altar over.
• They don't show it, but Ray got some high-level gear as a drop for killing the Worm monster. However, he needed to be Level 150 to use it. So rather than hold onto, he sold it for enough money to be able to afford his Paladin class' donation cost of 200,000.
• Ray wanted to buy Dragonscale Wards and Lifesaving Brooches to use again, but Dragonscale Wards cost about 300,000 and a Livesaving Brooch cost about 5,000,000 each (its an accessory that can prevent death from Fatal Damage but has a 10% chance of breaking every time). He couldn't afford any of them.
• His Paladin Job is a high-class job, meaning it can reach a Level cap of 100, whereas Low-class jobs can only get to 50. The collective total levels are factored into some things, but because normally you'd need to meet the requirements most players don't get a high-class job early. He lucked into it.
• Shu trying to avoid having his real face shown is due to the fact that the game is realistic enough that people can and have taken advantage to seek people out in the real world to settle grudges. He joined Altar because when he botched his CC he spotted a costume shop and warped there first, but his first suit was a Joke item with no defense. The one he has now will block anyone who is more than 100 Levels lower than him from seeing his status.
• NPCs don't know they live in a game world. The in-universe lore is that Players are given the Embryos on the condition that at anytime they can be spirited away to another world and can come back from the dead because of that. Anyone who tries to reveal the truth is thought of as having gone insane by the NPCs because of being isekai'd.
• Babylon or Babi being a Succubus gives her access to Charm spells, and it's also noted that because Rook is underage she's censored in the sense that the normal things you'd expect (like sex) are toned down to where the most erotic thing she'd do would be giving a massage.
• It's noted that the incident in the forest wasn't isolated. Since then new players were being killed left and right around Altar (not just the forest), making it impossible for any of them to level up outside of the city. The person who PK'd him managed to shave off about 800 points in the forest with his higher defense and a single shot, so the other Newbies had no chance of surviving. That's also why the PK'er unleashed that barrage against him, to make sure he couldn't walk it off since [Counter Absorption] blocked two shots.
• The Tomb Labyrinth is a Created Dungeon, meaning one made by the Developers of the game. The reason this is important is that it means monsters can spawn endlessly and thus drop items endlessly, which is part of why the enemy country tried invading them. It's also the only one in the Kingdom that is easily available as you only need a permit to enter (or be a Paladin).
• The reason Figaro making it to the 48th Floor on his own is a big deal is because there are only 45 floors have been explored by wiki volunteers. He literally broke the record.
• Figaro also gave Ray a gem with "Escape Gate" magic on it, acting as a means of leaving the dungeon instantly, because he liked the fact that Ray didn't "break" upon encountering him in such a manner. Ray also had some "White Lance" gems with him to hurt spirits in the Tomb because his counter skill returns damage based on HP lost due to damage from that specific enemy and they targeted MP and SP.
• Ray reached about Level 12 and his HP is more than 1000 by the end of the episode (He was Level 7 when he entered the Dungeon). This is because of his Paladin's growth modifier in HP being one of the highest and Nemesis' growth modifier being towards HP and DEF due to him being left in near-death states while she was in her 0th form.

Zitat von Horst_Humpendiek

Da Bücher einen deutlich größeren Umfang als Serien haben (und natürlich auch anders erzählen), ist es unausweichlich, dass Informationen verloren gehen und dann sind Informationen über das Gameplay und die Lore für die Handlung ja nicht zwangsläufig relevant. Die dreht sich darum, was Ray, der anscheinend die einzige Perspektivfigur ist, zusammen mit seinen Begleitern aktuell erlebt. Problematisch ist nur, wenn etwas weggelassen wird, was für das Verständnis der Ereignisse oder für seine Entwicklung notwendig ist.

Ich glaub schon, dass sich der Anime an Neulinge richtet und zwar an potenzielle neue Leser der Light Novel. Die LN-Adaptionen sind sicher genauso wie die Manga-Adaptionen in erster Linie Werbung. So gesehen ist es dann vielleicht sogar ganz praktisch, Inhalt wegzulassen, damit die Zuschauer erst recht zur Vorlage greifen.

Dann sollte man aber unwichitige Sachen weglassen. Man erklärt ja nicht mal Rays Fähigkeit und die ist eigentlich ziemlich wichtig. Und so Sachen wie Babi und Rook hätte man in 1-2 Sätzen ergänzen können.
Gerade weil die Serie vieles nicht erklärt z.b. wirkt Ray einfach komlett overpowerd weil man einfach Details weglässt und das turn die Leute auch wieder ab. Ich sehe bisher kaum jemanden der jetzt sagt "Mensch das war so interessant da muss ich die LN lesen" sondern hingegen "OP Main-Chara" und "langweilige 0815 Welt" was halt meiner Meinung nach nicht stimmt wobei Folge 2 schon besser aufgenommen wurde als 1. Ich mochte Band 1 gerade wegen der Lore (vor allem die bechriebenen Länder fand ich toll) und der unzähligen Möglichkeiten die vorgestellt worden sind. Ich frage mich was ich von den ganzen gehalten hätte wenn ich den Anime zuerst geschaut hätte...
Als Werbung macht sich der Anime aktuell echt nicht gut.

Zitat von Horst_Humpendiek

Episode 4
An sich war die Folge ganz unterhaltsam, aber was ist das für ein Spielsystem, das dem Spieler sofort, wenn es mal ernst wird, eine tolle Fähigkeit gibt?

Diese Notfall Evolution hat auch Nachteile was entweder noch angesprochen wird oder der Anime wieder übersprungen hat. Soweit ich es auch mitbekommen aht passiert sowas auch nie wieder und wird bei Ray sicher wieder damit zu tun haben dass Maiden halt ne wichtige und besondere Embryo-Art ist.
Ach ja Rays super seltenen Klasse ( bzw. hat er eine Klasse welche er verfügbar ist wenn man den ersten Job auf Max Level 50 hat) Paladin wird auch noch deutliche Nachteile für ihn haben was nächste Woche Thema sein wird. Was auch unter gegangen ist in der Episode ist das Rays "First Heal" (wäre Fast Heal nicht irgendwie der bessere Name gewesen?!) viel MP frisst was er als Anfänger kaum hat (nur Dank Maries Tränken konnte er ist so häufig einsetzen).
Ach ja was auch nicht erwähnt worden ist dass der Skill der 2. Form von Nemesis nur bei Debuffs durch Gegner hift. Debuffs welche er sich selber hinzufügt können dadurch nicht umgekehrt werden. Ich erkläre dass nur weil ich häufig gelesen hab dass sich Leute fragen warum er den Skill am Ende gegen die Debuffs nicht eingesetzt hat als er kurz vom Tod war.
Ach ja tatsächlich hatte der Trank von Dr. Flamingo auch neben den Hundeohren auch eine Heilfähigkeit, gelogen hat er also nicht :D Aber man sollte sich den Charakter noch merken.
Schade ist übrigens dass sie den Prolog von Band 2 nicht adaptiert haben der war ein guter Einstieg in den düsteren Abschnitt der jetzt für 2 Episoden kommt. Kann aber gut sein dass man dass Anfang nächste Folge nachholt. Verstehe auch nicht ganz warum man die AI Konferenz nur auf einen Charakter beschränkt halt welcher zudem jetzt auch noch wirkt wie ein Böse wicht >_>
An sich lässt der Anime die ganzen Nebenabschnitte weg welche langsam die Handlung und den Konflikt im Hintergrund aufbauen. An sich ist es später in Dendro so dass mehrere Handlungen parallel laufen.

Und hier noch mal ne Liste was unter anderem rausgelassen wurde:
Episode 3

• In the cafe, Rook is noted for being so handsome that spectators actually wonder if he or Ray is on the top or bottom. No, I am not kidding.
• The Mad Castle PK group gets some introspection before being killed off by Figaro, noting that while they liked RP'ing as Player Killers, they never go after Tians. Goblin Street, who are the group to the south, are basically insane to them because they do.
• Part of the reason the boss tried killing Figaro is because Superior Killer, the one who PK'd Ray, killed a Superior without being one themselves. That Superior was on a Wanted-List too, so they got sent to the Gaol.
• Contract basically makes it so that the two parties who sign it have to obey what's written or suffer huge debuffs, stat decreases, or the death penalty.
• Figaro managed to get out of Heaven's Weight is a big deal, as its noted that him being a Solo Player means he had to stock up on ways to deal with a variety of debuffs like the "Binding " one that Heaven's Weight stuck them with.
• The battle with Tsukuyo actually doesn't end where it does. One of the leaders of the PK'ers had an ability that allowed them to keep moving and went straight for Tsukuyo, but the rest of her group basically skewered the woman before she could get close.
• The LN explains the reason the knights were exhausted and pissed were because they thought Dryfe (the enemy nation in the War) were bombing them. Ray missed it because he was underground at the time.
• The Gaol is better explained in the other materials. basically, if a Player really screws up and gets on every countries wanted-list they can't use any Save Points, meaning they are locked in a prison so hard that they're basically stuck there for eternity unless they just quit the game. There are specific circumstances to do that though, which might be a spoiler.
• Cheshire is basically the AI in charge of chores, explaining that all AIs have things they are good at and bad at. He can also split himself into multiple copies to handle all his tasks, like giving a Tutorial while talking to them.
• The Adventurer's Guild Quest also had a mention that if you steal the package, they'd send an assassin after you.
• The LN gives you introspective into the Goblins and an explanation of what happened, as well as the location. It's largely setting up the impending fight.

Episode 4:

• That modeling job Rook took was a Level 8 Quest. That’s 3 higher than Ray’s first quest, given to him from the Pimp Guild. And he succeeded specifically because he’s so handsome the guy considered him a work of art, whereas he considered Babi to be an uncultured swine.
• Babi also worked in a massage parlor to gain her skills. Reminder, because Rook is below the age of 18 the adult parts are walled off. So its just a really good shoulder massage that gets rid of exhaustion. Think Kawakami from P5.
• Both monsters that Rook gain are Demi-Dragon level monsters (on-par with the Worms from EP1), being far above what he should have access to at this point and strong enough that they have to be used as a Party Member since his minion capacity is too low. There are a bunch of mechanics involved so read the LN.
• Ray reached Level 16 while traveling due to them fighting some monsters along the way and Level 20 from killing the Goblins (there was a lot of them in contrast to what was shown) before the boss showed up.
• Drain Learning is basically a Blue Mage skill Babi got,meaning she has a 1% chance of learning a skill when she uses that technique from before.
• That dude with wings was a Control AI known as Jabberwok.
• Ray shooting himself in the face is what happens in the LN, though the second time it was because a breeze blew the gas back at him. But he avoided breathing it in.
• Ray got those debuffs on him when testing out the Misama not because he breathed it in but because the Grapevine got the debuffs and then flung one of its grapes into his mouth, causing him to swallow and get hit with Food Poisoning. This is actually important, because it explains some nuances of his Reversal skill. Namely self-inflicted debuffs aren’t affected by it, only those that come from enemies, meaning he can’t shoot himself in the face for a quick power-up.
• They skipped the entire prologue from Volume 2, which… really sets the stage for how messed up the next antagonists are. I hope they show it in the next episode.

Episode 5

Die Episode mit den lustigen Gesichtern! Vielleicht dient der Anime noch als Meme-Vorlage! Rays schlechter Mode-Geschmack wird aber noch zu Running-Gag genauso wie seien Catch-Phrase ^^° Bin auch mal gespannt wie lange ihm Nemesis seine Gatcha-Niete noch vorhalten wird :D Ich Band 4 hat sie es noch getan.
Nun joah das mit den Kindern und der GM-Gang war halt im Prolog drinnen wo auch direkt beschrieben wird wie so ein Kind gefressen wird. Was, wie ich schon meinte, sofort zeigt dass es jetzt düsterer wird. Aber hey dank der tollen Adaption lässt man sowas ja weg.
Auch der Mercha wäre nicht besonders wundernswert gewesen wenn der Anime nicht die Infos zu den anderen Nationen weggelassen hätte, dann wüssten die Zuschauer nämlich das es ein High-Tech-Land gibt (die ironischerweise ja die Kriegsgegner sind also von Rays Nation welche ja das Mittelalter nachbilden.) Somit haben wir Mittelalter vs. High-Tech.
Ansonsten hat der Anime eine komplette Arc-Teil ausgelassen (die verschwundene 2. Prinzessin. Wird aber sicher noch aufgegriffen da sie als Rolle für den Anime bestätigt ist) Dann hat man nicht erklärt warum man nicht einfach Truppen in das Versteck der GM-Gang schickt um die Kinder zu befreien: Das Versteck liegt an der Grenze zu Caldina und diese fänden eine größere Truppenbewegung nicht gerade toll. Gerade weil Caldina auf einen Krieg hofft und deswegen immer eine Möglichkeit sucht entsprechend für Aufruhe zu sorgen. Ich glaube sogar mich zu erinnern dass die GM-Gang auch deswegen mit Caldina zusammenarbeitet.

So und nun nochmal alles was rausgeflogen ist.

• The Prologue of Volume 2 goes into a lengthy showcase of the Gouz-Maise gang leaders being the absolute worst by having the first leader torture a child to death in a magic circle before cutting off his head and planning to return it to the kid’s parents because they paid their ransom but he had use for the rest of his body as a resource. For the ones who didn’t have a ransom paid or use as resource, the second gang leader actually eats the child alive while mentioning how tasty child meat is.
• It does a good job of establishing their goals and personality, which is actually an interesting perspective if not for the horrendous things they do. The anime makes them seem really generic in contrast.
• It is also established for the last year the gang has been kidnapping, ransoming, and killing children, and no one has been able to do anything. The Tian Adventurers all die horrifically trying and the Masters who tried as well established that the leaders of the gangs had maxed out High-Level Jobs that would require a Superior or at least several more high-level Masters to do something about it.
• They also reveal Altar couldn’t move the army to deal with these guys because of politics too, so these people were seriously in a bad spot.
• Marie’s explanation for why Masters with ears like his aren’t unusual is because Gideon has beastfolks and Masters are eccentric enough that at best one guard who saw him without the ears prior only assumed that he’d missed them before.
• The Gacha Machine has an in-universe explanation, including how they get the rewards that Rook and Ray got. For the record, both of them got some one-of-a-kind loot.
• Rook’s gear was actually a UBM weapon like the Miasmic Flame Bracers, which should be impossible as those are locked to the players who earn an MVP against one. The only exception is a Tian Adventurer who earned them but died at some point, and they opt not to bring that up because you’d have people hunting them down for it.
• The first thing Ray got from the Gacha was a Tomb Permit, just like the one he paid for but didn’t need. He gave it Rook, though Nemesis points out he could have sold it since he hadn’t signed that one. So that was another 100,000 lir wasted.
• They skipped an entire sub-plot that establishes that Liliana is in Gideon and searching for the second princess who went missing. Considering the number of children who have been kidnapped around here for the last year, that immediately sends up red flags to the knights. You also establish that some of the Tian Paladins don’t trust Ray because he’s a Master, a theme that gets brought up over the course of the arc being the division between them and Tians.
• Hugo getting his butt kicked is because while his total job level is higher than the bandits by far, the jobs that make it up are basically non-direct combat class as a Pilot, Mechanic, and High Pilot. The only things that are high for him are his HP, MP, SP, and DEX.
• Hugo establishes that a Level 8 Quest is ludicrous enough that a Level 500 Tian Adventurer (the max level they can reach) would likely fail it going solo and an entire party of them would generally have a hard time. Level 8 is simply beyond their abilities.
• That tag that Ray picked up states “Maise’s Utility Child Civilian Skeleton, Specimen No. 87”. That alone should tell you what kind of antagonist we’re dealing with.
• Maise is supposed to be a horse-man. Not the generic looking bad guy we ran across. The only reason he noticed Ray snooping about was because killing those undead children had dropped his Minion Capacity, which is why he set up the trap.
• Gouz was actually watching as Hugo slaughtered all of his men. He could have stepped in earlier, but they were planning on killing all of them anyway because they were getting ready to leave the fortress due to the upcoming events in Gideon and didn’t want to risk a real threat coming after them. This just saved them time.
• Hugo gets an entire segment explaining more about Dryfe and the clan he’s a part of. It’s a lot of world-building that would be useful but was cut for time. His mech had also taken about 30% damage from the battles with all the lower-class fighters, hence why Gouz nearly broke it in a single hit.